Motorcycle GDL & Mandatory Training

[nevada]

60 votes so far!   not bad - but I don't see why we can't easily double that

why would we ask to double that......i thought this was a personal opinion poll thats basically telling ppl to vote yes

[Josh]

why would we ask to double that......i thought this was a personal opinion poll thats basically telling ppl to vote yes

I think he meant 60 votes overall (for & against). There aren't even 60 FOR votes. The more votes there are, the better chance this can be used for any sort of validity.

[cowboyrt]

ya lol Nevada I didn't mean for people to vote yes. I just meant to vote period.

[MsNinja]

k, so I didn't read all 5 pages of comments, so I may be saying something previously said, but here goes:

You are required to take 30 hours of driver training in order to drive a motorized vehicle in Saskatchewan....why??  Because there is so much involved in driving a car...there is more then just you on the road.  You are taught vehicle safety, how to avoid accidents, how to react properly in situations and how to be a defensive driver.  Are these not good qualities to possess as a driver???
How can anyone not be FOR mandatory training regarding a motorcycle??  Are there not enough accidents and deaths on the road to warrent this??  There should be no difference between the ability to drive a car and the ability to drive a motorcycle. I took the safety course and was amazed at how well it improved my driving ability... (although I still crashed and burned, but thats a whole other story) There is SOOO much more involved between a car and a bike...and the chance for an injury-I believe- is far greater.  Maybe if there was a more aggresive course out there it would also help remove some of the thrill seekers out there who make a  bad name for the rest of us.... If they had to put effort into getting their license, would they take the priviledge of riding more seriously???

[Denomic_Phen]

Is there any place available (besides that old thread) where we can get information on what SGI is actually planning to implement as part of the GDL program?  More specific details?  I realize its still in the planning stages but it would be nice to know some specifics .  There's so much babble about the GDL mixed with random opinion that its difficult to tell what is true and what is just a rumor. 

[cowboyrt]

There is some posts about what might happen in other threads, but theres no facts.  I doubt they even know themselves.  The first step is to decide if we even want this system.  Then they'll figure out how its gonna work.   "option 3" won't be out for abit

[Evilsports]

k, so I didn't read all 5 pages of comments, so I may be saying something previously said, but here goes:

You are required to take 30 hours of driver training in order to drive a motorized vehicle in Saskatchewan....why??  Because there is so much involved in driving a car...there is more then just you on the road.  You are taught vehicle safety, how to avoid accidents, how to react properly in situations and how to be a defensive driver.  Are these not good qualities to possess as a driver???
How can anyone not be FOR mandatory training regarding a motorcycle??  Are there not enough accidents and deaths on the road to warrent this??  There should be no difference between the ability to drive a car and the ability to drive a motorcycle. I took the safety course and was amazed at how well it improved my driving ability... (although I still crashed and burned, but thats a whole other story) There is SOOO much more involved between a car and a bike...and the chance for an injury-I believe- is far greater.  Maybe if there was a more aggresive course out there it would also help remove some of the thrill seekers out there who make a  bad name for the rest of us.... If they had to put effort into getting their license, would they take the priviledge of riding more seriously???

I think the resistance is partially from people who have been driving around with a learners and don't want the hassle of taking the road test.  There seems to be a stigma almost that accompanies having a learners license and some people are possibly too proud to admit that they may not be the worlds best bike rider.

I know if I'm not careful I can sometimes get too big for my britches when I'm out riding.  I'll come in to a corner a little too hot and remember in a hurry that I'm no biking pro. 

People need to understand that this isn't SGI or the rest of the biking community saying that you aren't a good rider. Nobody is saying that.  What people are saying is that there is always, always, always, room to improve.  Even if it's only psychologically.  Riding a screaming fast motorcycle awakens the "rebel" in a lot of us and I think some of the reluctance to accept the new guidelines may stem from that. "How are we supposed to feel like a rebel when we have to go to motorcycle school?"  type mentality. 

There's no shame in doing our part to make the roads safer for each other.  Let's try to pull together and lead the biking community by example.  Don't get caught up in the squidly line of thinking.

[T-bar]

I think the resistance is partially from people who have been driving around with a learners and don't want the hassle of taking the road test.  There seems to be a stigma almost that accompanies having a learners license and some people are possibly too proud to admit that they may not be the worlds best bike rider.

I know if I'm not careful I can sometimes get too big for my britches when I'm out riding.  I'll come in to a corner a little too hot and remember in a hurry that I'm no biking pro. 

People need to understand that this isn't SGI or the rest of the biking community saying that you aren't a good rider. Nobody is saying that.  What people are saying is that there is always, always, always, room to improve.  Even if it's only psychologically.  Riding a screaming fast motorcycle awakens the "rebel" in a lot of us and I think some of the reluctance to accept the new guidelines may stem from that. "How are we supposed to feel like a rebel when we have to go to motorcycle school?"  type mentality. 

There's no shame in doing our part to make the roads safer for each other.  Let's try to pull together and lead the biking community by example.  Don't get caught up in the squidly line of thinking.

Nicely put.

[Nate]

Too many dam accident s !

[Thunderbox]

I agre totally with a mandatory motorcycle training program.  I also support a mandatory program for driving other vehiles like a car.  Too often we pick the vehicle that caters to a minority of users like the motorcycle.  How about everybody who choses to share the road with us.

[redline]

SGI could make this fun.  If they built a track and riding facility to train riders and let hooligans blow off steam on a coarse legally instead of the street, they would have people lining up for the coarse.... Happily.  They could also have the coarse voluntary but the rider would prefers to forego the coarse wouldn't be eligible for a rate discount. Simply adding $500.00 onto current rates that would be discounted after the courses successful completion would entice people to show up, and probably show more interest because they're saving money on their rates as compared to them being forced to be there.

I like the idea of a coarse for all new comers to the sport, I've been riding for 24 years and would have enjoyed sitting in on a coarse when I started; it certainly wouldn't have hurt my skillset and probably would have prevented some of the near misses I've had in the beginning. 

[claffix]

SGI could make this fun.  If they built a track and riding facility to train riders and let hooligans blow off steam on a coarse legally instead of the street, they would have people lining up for the coarse.... Happily.  

There's already PSRA events at 3 flags doing it cheaper than SGI ever could.  There are hooligans blowing off steam , just ask vinny and the rest of the supermoto group haha.  But there are hardly people lining up for it.

[redline]

The PSRA track is too small for streetbikes.  If it were larger I'd be trampling people down to get in.

[Invigor]

Sure, that caters well to riders that want to go fast on their sport bikes, but I don't see many from the cruiser crowd signing up.  As far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be any "perks" to completing the safety course, especially financial reward from SGI. You need to take a course to drive a car, that's the way it is.  Soon enough this will be the same for motorcycles, but the only difference is that it won't be offered in high school when you're 15. Theoretically, if new riders get better as a whole, our rates should eventually go down on their own due to less claims.

[cowboyrt]

The PSRA track is too small for streetbikes.  If it were larger I'd be trampling people down to get in.

Not for training