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« on: March 08, 2010, 08:47:11 PM »

I have been looking into getting new exhaust for my bike this year and have narrow it down to full TRC yosh exhaust. The only part I can not decide on is between stainless/titanium/carbon.
At first I was going to go with carbon all the way, but know that I have done some research I am not so sure I need some help making the choice

What I have found for info is pretty basic. Although it is enough to make me wonder what to do.

Stainless-Pro- Lowest cost and the most durable.  Con- Heaviest and does not dissapate well.
Titanium- Pro-  Lightest and dissapates heat well. Con- Not very durable prone to denting from road rash. MOST expensive.
Carbon- Pro- Looks awesome. Lightweight. Con- vibrate and crack.Heat can separate fibre.

I am not saying all the homework I have done is correct. Step in and let me know if this is not accurate.

All three seem to have the same power gains when dealing with the same exhaust. So even though it may not look the best I am think that stainless seems to be the way to go.
Any help here would be great. dunno

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 09:13:42 PM »

is the cost/weight difference betwen titanium and SS justifiable for your application?

Do you need to save the extra pound or two by getting titanium? (are you racing, for example?)

Is that weight savings important enough that you're willing to pay for it?  Will you notice a difference?

These only you can answer.

Personally for me, I like the look of a metal exhaust system/can better than carbon fiber, maybe im old fashioned.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 09:22:30 PM »

Look at these ones, highly recommended in the Bandit community:

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 09:28:35 PM »

SS= least expensive, Titanium next and CF most $$$.....as far as weight goes, difference between all 3 is roughly 1 lb. Not a big factor.
I got just the SS TRC slip ons for mine, just looking for less weight, better looks and sound. As far as performance goes, its hardly anything worthwhile
unless you get a PCIII and a dyno tune.

Bayside performance in Vancouver had the best deal around for me anyways.

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 09:29:39 PM »

Is this a street ridden bike only?
The "cons" you list are negligible and/or non-existent on a street bike. i.e.- I've never heard of a quality brand name carbon can separating due to heat.

Really, you need to just get what YOU think looks best for your bike and not worry about the little, insignificant details that will never matter.

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 09:30:46 PM »

Look at these ones, highly recommended in the Bandit community:

Holeshot

He has an 08 model

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 09:41:55 PM »

I wouldn't even worry about the weight when they are that close together...it's going to be a lot lighter than stock no matter which option you go with.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 11:40:37 PM »

Carbon all the way. on a hot day those pipes stay cool. easy to clean, looks good.  i have a few year old two brothers system. neither pipe is showing any wear

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 11:46:41 PM »

Any decent make of CF will hang together just fine. And it's nice not to worry about burning yourself on it, or your passengers melting their shoes onto it. (trust me, that's a MAJOR PITA to get off).  Carbon will burn through if you don't repack them at intervals where recommended, but repacking is cheap and easy, and the intervals are something like 10000+ km.

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 11:55:00 PM »

Carbon will burn through if you don't repack them at intervals where recommended, but repacking is cheap and easy, and the intervals are something like 10000+ km.


serious??  I've put WAY over 10k on my bike - almost 20.  How do you repack?   I need more details!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 12:00:53 AM »

check manufacturer's instructions for your exhaust... might be more than 10k.

Anyway, just drill out your rivets and pull your end cap. core should come with it, and the packing will either be left in the can or come out wrapped around the core. installation is the reverse of removal; just make sure you have some new rivets and a rivet gun handy.  This gives me a good idea for a how-to thread...

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 12:30:30 AM »

how do you know when you need a repack?


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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 12:51:34 AM »

Bayside performance in Vancouver had the best deal around for me anyways.
how was dealing with bayside?  they carry a Zard exhaust for my Guzzi I might look at getting maybe next year.  Theyre like one of two places in canada I can find online that carries Guzzi exhaust and cheaper by like $100.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 05:51:46 AM »

bayside rocks. i buy lots of **** from there.

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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 10:32:55 AM »

SS= least expensive, Titanium next and CF most $$$.....as far as weight goes, difference between all 3 is roughly 1 lb.

1 Pound? Titanium race exhaust systems are generally only 1 mm thick because its stronger and cuts down the weight alot more than 1 pound over a full system.. But slip on it would be minimal not worth it in my eyes. I would say that a full titanium system would weigh about as much as the factory headers. Maybe a bit more but there is more than 1 pound in weight savings..
I would say CF is the best bang for the buck cause you get the weight savings and the best looks. Also get a PCIII and a tune if you are going to swap out exhausts for sure just on the reliability factor of your motor, let alone the power jump.

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